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    Default Portland 800 System P25 Upgrade

    The City of Portland recently released an RFP to Provide Citywide 800 MHz Project 25 Trunked Radio Network. It is listed on their site as Bid/RFP #5615; to be opened 3/31/2015. Little additional information about this request is available online at this time, so there is no way yet to determine the time frame in which it is likely to be completed.

    This comes about as a result of a study done for Portland evaluating their existing 800 analog system and possible upgrades. The Public Safety Communications System Migration and Replacement Report contains a lot of interesting detail about Portland's system. Very much worth reading for those with an interest in the system.

    Stay tuned for more on this one!
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    Thanks for posting. I can sometimes during the summer hear the system. It will be interesting to see what improvements if any would increase my ability to hear it, or not afterwards.
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    I know from a paper I read a few months ago outlining the upgrade (which I have the .pdf of, if anyone wants it), they will be adding at least one transmitter. They do admit they have coverage issues with the current system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W1MTW View Post
    I know from a paper I read a few months ago outlining the upgrade (which I have the .pdf of, if anyone wants it), they will be adding at least one transmitter. They do admit they have coverage issues with the current system.
    If it is different than the study linked above, please post a link to it!

    The consultant's study above does suggests an "optional" fourth repeater site ($544,000) as part of over $3 million in options. Total project cost is estimated at approximately $8.5 million (!) Also, Phase II P25 is discussed, but seems to be deemed unnecessary for this system.

    The study also references a separate study of coverage issues, which I cannot locate. That one they may not want in the public domain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W1MTW View Post
    Thanks, Mark. BTW, that's the same document linked in post #1. (Better twice than not at all)

    I am also going to make this a sticky thread, as I suspect this will go on for awhile. Not as long as it took for MSCOMMNET to become operational, I trust.
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    We hope it wont take as long
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    This will include south portland I presume?


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    Well worth spending time reading the links posted
    http://me-portland.civicplus.com/Age...68?fileID=2449

    Quote Originally Posted by CEFD_Thomas View Post
    This will include south portland I presume?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CEFD_Thomas View Post
    This will include south portland I presume?


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    Yes it will

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    Okay. Thanks!


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    Interesting newspaper article about this project: Portland communications, dispatch system ‘has reached its end of life’

    It seems to indicate that funding for the project would be in "next year's" budget, which presumably means the fiscal year from July 1, 2015 to June 30, 2016. That, I suppose, could mean modifications could begin in calendar 2015.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maine45 View Post
    Interesting newspaper article about this project: Portland communications, dispatch system ‘has reached its end of life’

    It seems to indicate that funding for the project would be in "next year's" budget, which presumably means the fiscal year from July 1, 2015 to June 30, 2016. That, I suppose, could mean modifications could begin in calendar 2015.
    The article highlighted a few things in addition. I am guessing they have been routinely purchasing portable radios; since most can be reprogrammed for a new system. Most likely their current vendor's newer models that will support any P25 trunked system. The other thing it highlights is that particular vendors planned obsolescence of all its equipment. The system is "Solid" meaning in theory, they don't need to replace it; just upgrade it. But in reality, when the vendor shuts off your parts supply and doesn't offer an upgrade, you're stuck buying all new again.
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    I'm surprised they wouldn't be planning for phase two when it comes to the system even if they decided they only needed phase one radios for now? The next phase of rebanding is probably ten years or more off but it will come.

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    The results of the initial bid for the upgrades to Portland's system are posted on their purchasing dept. website, and are as follows:

    Provide Citywide 800 MHz Project-25 Trunked Radio Network Harris Corporation $5,880,955.00
    Provide Citywide 800 MHz Project-25 Trunked Radio Network Motorola Solutions $4,758,387.00


    No award has been made yet on this bid.
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    Licenses have been modified for P25.
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    Any movement on this?
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    nope, not that i have heard or could find on the radio


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    South Portland only just ordered flash updates APX7000's (56) and XTL2500's (23) on the existing Analog System this past Fall, the flash updates are to be able to support the new P25 when it does get turned on.


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    Any movement on this?
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    Thanks guys
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    So no time table Bill??


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    Should be very soon. There Type II system still works very well, so I am assuming that's why there seems to be no rush.
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    The Wiki is ready and waiting for Confirmed P25 info
    http://scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?ti...ty_of_Portland

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    Just saw on the radio reference forum that the rollout date has been pushed back till july. I just set my 436 on portland metro p25 for an hour or so without a peep. It locks on a CC but that's it. I'll check periodically over the next 2 weeks while I'm home for spring break but I wouldn't say there will be much to hear for a little while.


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    Well the CC info is good. What Freq, SysID, WACN and NAC is shown ??
    Quote Originally Posted by CEFD_Thomas View Post
    Just saw on the radio reference forum that the rollout date has been pushed back till july. I just set my 436 on portland metro p25 for an hour or so without a peep. It locks on a CC but that's it. I'll check periodically over the next 2 weeks while I'm home for spring break but I wouldn't say there will be much to hear for a little while.


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