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New Somerset PD Freq.

#1 Post by chiefj » 24 Jul 2019 12:05

At the annual Town Meeting, the Somerset PD received a substantial sum to upgrade its entire radio system. In this process, I believe they will be getting off the T-Band and going digital. No one at the Department could provide any new frequency info as everything is being handled by the contractor. They do believe that work will start in October.

I checked the Wiki and there is nothing new there. Is there a way to see if the FCC has awarded any new frequencies?
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#2 Post by ecps92 » 24 Jul 2019 12:12

The only NEW licenses for Somerset are:
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSear ... ndow=false - School Dept issued in 2015
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http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSear ... ndow=false Public Safety issued in 2014

I would suggest regularly checking the GenMen
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/General_Menu_Reports/
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Re: New Somerset PD Freq.

#3 Post by chiefj » 24 Jul 2019 12:13

Thank you. Fire is already off the T-Band, so no need to change there if they go digital.
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Re: New Somerset PD Freq.

#4 Post by Wqwy879 » 24 Jul 2019 14:21

chiefj wrote:
24 Jul 2019 12:13
Thank you. Fire is already off the T-Band, so no need to change there if they go digital.
Somerset Fire is on T-Band. 483.0000 PL 203.5 Thought T-Band ran from 470-512mhz.

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#5 Post by pete » 24 Jul 2019 16:38

You are correct, T band is 470 - 512 MHz. Somerset Fire (483.000 203.5) and Police (482.850 203.5) continue to operate on their T band channels and may continue to do so since the T band giveback appears to be on hold, pending appeal by several large US cities (Boston, New York, LosAngeles to name a few).

http://www.npstc.org/TBand.jsp
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#6 Post by W1KNE » 24 Jul 2019 18:46

And of course there is a nice page describing the T Band frequencies, markets, and the "424 MHz" markets right on our wiki!

https://scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?titl ... _in_the_US
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#7 Post by Tim » 25 Jul 2019 21:54

They could stay with 482.850. New Bedford and Seekonk have kept there original freq. with there upgrade. :sox:
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Re: New Somerset PD Freq.

#8 Post by chiefj » 25 Aug 2019 15:24

I thought they had gone to a 450 frequency. Sorry.

How is NB and Seekonk able to hold onto their T-Band channels, if eventually they may be required to leave?

Just an aside, does any of this reallocation stuff for the TV stations, affect T-Band frequencies in this area?
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#9 Post by JBP » 30 Aug 2019 15:01

They have a valid license to operate on those frequencies until they are required to vacate them following the auction of the spectrum.

We are currently in the "freeze" where no new T-Band licenses are issued and existing users cannot expand their coverage footprint. The law requires an auction be held by 2021. Incumbents would be given a deadline after that to vacate the spectrum. https://www.rrmediagroup.com/News/NewsD ... sID/18609/

The television 'Repack' involves TV broadcasters moving back down to VHF and does not affect T-Band channels/spectrum as far as I know, Mike or Jeff would know better.
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#10 Post by W1KNE » 30 Aug 2019 18:31

JBP wrote:
30 Aug 2019 15:01

The television 'Repack' involves TV broadcasters moving back down to VHF and does not affect T-Band channels/spectrum as far as I know, Mike or Jeff would know better.
No, that's incorrect. It involves everyone vacating channels 38-51. Only two stations locally went VHF. In fact two stations are still occupying T-Band post repack.
WUTF (27.1, Channel 19), and WBZ (4.1, Channel 20).
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#11 Post by jbella » 30 Aug 2019 20:28

chiefj wrote:
25 Aug 2019 15:24


How is NB and Seekonk able to hold onto their T-Band channels, if eventually they may be required to leave?
Whoever buys the T-Band frequencies will be required to pay for relocating agencies affected. You'd be foolish to vacate on your own dime.

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#12 Post by JBP » 30 Aug 2019 22:45

W1KNE wrote:
30 Aug 2019 18:31

No, that's incorrect. It involves everyone vacating channels 38-51. Only two stations locally went VHF. In fact two stations are still occupying T-Band post repack.
WUTF (27.1, Channel 19), and WBZ (4.1, Channel 20).
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Re: New Somerset PD Freq.

#13 Post by chiefj » 08 Sep 2019 07:33

Thanks for the education.

With the re-banding of the TV stations I can no longer get Providence WPRI, located only nine miles away, and WGBH HD 2.1. Both are on VHF and although I have a very good roof mounted UHF/VHF antenna, it can no longer capture their VHF signals. The antenna company claims my solar panels must be the problem.
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#14 Post by ecps92 » 08 Sep 2019 10:12

Sounds like they have the same Help Desk as my ole DSL who claimed the outages were due to Amateur Radio Operators in the neighborhood
chiefj wrote:
08 Sep 2019 07:33
Thanks for the education.

With the re-banding of the TV stations I can no longer get Providence WPRI, located only nine miles away, and WGBH HD 2.1. Both are on VHF and although I have a very good roof mounted UHF/VHF antenna, it can no longer capture their VHF signals. The antenna company claims my solar panels must be the problem.
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#15 Post by W1KNE » 09 Sep 2019 00:38

chiefj wrote:
08 Sep 2019 07:33
Thanks for the education.

With the re-banding of the TV stations I can no longer get Providence WPRI, located only nine miles away, and WGBH HD 2.1. Both are on VHF and although I have a very good roof mounted UHF/VHF antenna, it can no longer capture their VHF signals. The antenna company claims my solar panels must be the problem.
WPRI was VHF Hi-Band before and after the change. They only went from 13 to 7, but changed towers in Rehoboth. Channel 7 suffers from some bad issues with FM harmonics, and issues receiving it can often be fixed using an FM trap.
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