NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

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NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#1 Post by KC1DVN » 13 May 2018 17:14

https://www.cityfreq.com/callsign/wpmz569.html

I was wondering if some of you tech Guys/Ladies could figure out how to program this..

Public Safety Pool, Trunked

NEW HAMPSHIRE, STATE OF
10 HAZEN DR
CONCORD, NH 03301
Attn: JIM KOWALIK
Phone: 603-271-2421
Phone: 603-271-3636

APPLICANT IS A MULTI-AGENCY OF LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. RADIOS WILL BE USED AMONG THE AGENCIES, LIKE POLICE, TO COORDINATE DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITIES.

Control Point 2

151.64000 MHz
Mobile, 35 watt(s), 1000 unit(s), Mobile, Transmit Location
120km radius around HYLAND HILL, WESTMORELAND, CHESHIRE COUNTY, NH,
42° 57' 35.3" N 72° 23' 3.3" W

151.64000 MHz
Mobile, 35 watt(s), 1000 unit(s), Mobile, Transmit Location
120km radius around PITCHER MOUNTAIN, STODDARD, CHESHIRE COUNTY, NH,
43° 5' 37.3" N 72° 8' 7.3" W

151.64000 MHz
Mobile, 35 watt(s), 1000 unit(s), Mobile, Transmit Location
120km radius around SUNAPEE MOUNTAIN, NEWBURY, MERRIMACK COUNTY, NH,
43° 18' 49.3" N 72° 4' 26.3" W

151.67000 MHz
Mobile, 35 watt(s), 1000 unit(s), Mobile, Transmit Location
120km radius around KEARSARGE MOUNTAIN, WARNER, MERRIMACK COUNTY, NH,
43° 23' 0.3" N 71° 51' 26.3" W

151.73000 MHz
Mobile, 35 watt(s), 1000 unit(s), Mobile, Transmit Location
120km radius around PACK MONADNOCK, PETERBOROUGH, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, NH,
42° 51' 41.3" N 71° 52' 43.3" W

151.76000 MHz
Mobile, 35 watt(s), 1000 unit(s), Mobile, Transmit Location
120km radius around SADDLEBACK MOUNTAIN, DEERFIELD, ROCKINGHAM COUNTY, NH,
43° 10' 33.3" N 71° 12' 27.2" W

160.53000 MHz
Control, 350 watt(s), 1 unit(s), Fixed, Transmit Location
PACK MONADNOCK, PETERBOROUGH, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, NH,
42° 51' 41.3" N 71° 52' 43.3" W

160.66500 MHz
Control, 125 watt(s), 1 unit(s), Fixed, Transmit Location
SADDLEBACK MOUNTAIN, DEERFIELD, ROCKINGHAM COUNTY, NH,
43° 10' 33.3" N 71° 12' 27.2" W

160.78500 MHz
Control, 350 watt(s), 1 unit(s), Fixed, Transmit Location
KEARSARGE MOUNTAIN, WARNER, MERRIMACK COUNTY, NH,
43° 23' 0.3" N 71° 51' 26.3" W

160.83000 MHz
Control, 125 watt(s), 1 unit(s), Fixed, Transmit Location
HYLAND HILL, WESTMORELAND, CHESHIRE COUNTY, NH,
42° 57' 35.3" N 72° 23' 3.3" W

160.83000 MHz
Control, 125 watt(s), 1 unit(s), Fixed, Transmit Location
PITCHER MOUNTAIN, STODDARD, CHESHIRE COUNTY, NH,
43° 5' 37.3" N 72° 8' 7.3" W

160.83000 MHz
Control, 125 watt(s), 1 unit(s), Fixed, Transmit Location
SUNAPEE MOUNTAIN, NEWBURY, MERRIMACK COUNTY, NH,
43° 18' 49.3" N 72° 4' 26.3" W

I tried P25 Standard.
P25 one freq Trunk.
Mot Type II/P25.
Mot P25/P25 Standard.
Mot VHF Band.
I don't know how to set up Band plans for the MOT VHF Band

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Re: NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#2 Post by schwab » 13 May 2018 17:56

I don't know what the plan is for those freqs (if any), I would program them in as conventional freq so you would be able to monitor any activity.

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Re: NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#3 Post by schwab » 13 May 2018 17:58

What's strange is that none of those freqs have an FB2 or FB8 station class, only FX1 and MO.

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Re: NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#4 Post by W1MTW » 13 May 2018 18:12

schwab wrote:
13 May 2018 17:58
What's strange is that none of those freqs have an FB2 or FB8 station class, only FX1 and MO.
Any idea what system this goes to? Seems kind of difficult to have a trunked system without a repeater (FB2 or FB8).

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Re: NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#5 Post by W1KNE » 14 May 2018 01:18

Those frequencies are all State Police.

They are all P25 and analog mixed mode, conventional. Likely Car to Car channels. The FXO appear to be linked receivers are likely to monitor the channels for the dispatch centers, so they can hear what traffic is being transmitted on these channels.

You will program them as conventional frequencies. Knowing how New Hampshire operates, they'll most likely be P25 conventional.

No trunking, they aren't trunked. So don't go looking in that direction with them.

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Re: NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#6 Post by ecps92 » 14 May 2018 08:05

Delving into the history of that license, it has been around for quite sometime.
Not anything new. Originally NHSP was talking of going VHF TRS but went conventional only, could be some licenses never got updated to change from Trunking to Conventional

Likely these are either Simplex channels, that rarely get used or have never been used.
Or...are inputs which we don't generally converse about here due to our Policy.

FX1 is a control station and would be used on the input of a Repeater and/or as a LINK to/from Remote sites, usually with an FX2

As others have pointed out, put them in, in conventional mode for now, as there CURRENTLY is no NHSP Trunk
W1MTW wrote:
13 May 2018 18:12
schwab wrote:
13 May 2018 17:58
What's strange is that none of those freqs have an FB2 or FB8 station class, only FX1 and MO.
Any idea what system this goes to? Seems kind of difficult to have a trunked system without a repeater (FB2 or FB8).

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Re: NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#7 Post by KC1DVN » 17 May 2018 02:01

Thanks for the information. I programed the frequencys and get a lot of hits with a lot of what sounds like data.

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Re: NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#8 Post by ScanBoston » 17 May 2018 03:41

Well P25 conventional will sound like data if your not using a scanner that can't decode P25. Is that all that is going on?

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Re: NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#9 Post by KC1DVN » 18 May 2018 10:10

I have a BCD396T and a BCD325P2. I think it's a DMR or a moto Turbo system. I'm not paying for the upgrade.

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#10 Post by ecps92 » 20 May 2018 18:03

Looking at the License emissions, it seems to be P25 and Analog - not TRBO
KC1DVN wrote:
18 May 2018 10:10
I have a BCD396T and a BCD325P2. I think it's a DMR or a moto Turbo system. I'm not paying for the upgrade.

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Re: NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#11 Post by garys » 21 May 2018 14:36

I don't know about NH, but in ME there are some frequencies that are P25 for public safety in the northern part of the state, but are DMR for whatever in the south. Since just about every PD in NH is P25 at this point, I'd find it shocking if someone was on DMR.

Maybe these are some sort of point to point relay, but those are typically on UHF in New Hampshire.
ecps92 wrote:
20 May 2018 18:03
Looking at the License emissions, it seems to be P25 and Analog - not TRBO
KC1DVN wrote:
18 May 2018 10:10
I have a BCD396T and a BCD325P2. I think it's a DMR or a moto Turbo system. I'm not paying for the upgrade.

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Re: NEW HAMPSHIRE SP Trunked System

#12 Post by KC1DVN » 29 May 2018 22:14

Thanks for the information.

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