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Logan/MassPort TGs

#1 Post by WS1K » 20 Jan 2019 09:54

I've logged the following unknown Talkgroups on the Logan Airport/MassPort system:
31
111
195
241
I heard some talk on TG 31 this morning and it sounded like snow/ice control at Logan but MPA OPS 1 and MPA FAC RAMP seem to be where the main action is.
241 I have heard in the past and it sounds like radio techs but I haven't pinned down the agency.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Jon

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#2 Post by ecps92 » 20 Jan 2019 11:38

http://www.scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?title=Massport
195 should be Worcester Airport GTU Emergency
WS1K wrote:
20 Jan 2019 09:54
I've logged the following unknown Talkgroups on the Logan Airport/MassPort system:
31
111
195
241
I heard some talk on TG 31 this morning and it sounded like snow/ice control at Logan but MPA OPS 1 and MPA FAC RAMP seem to be where the main action is.
241 I have heard in the past and it sounds like radio techs but I haven't pinned down the agency.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks,
Jon
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Re: Logan/MassPort TGs

#3 Post by jrm3607 » 20 Jan 2019 14:29

195 should be Logan GTU Emergency, 31 and 241 are new to me.

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Re: Logan/MassPort TGs

#4 Post by WS1K » 21 Jan 2019 12:16

Thanks for the info on 195.

There was talk on 241 again this morning. Reference to Terminal C and the radio shop. So it looks like it may be Logan radio techs.

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#5 Post by ecps92 » 21 Jan 2019 12:41

Hmmm, Techs had been heard on 301 in the past [2014]
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Thanks for the info on 195.

There was talk on 241 again this morning. Reference to Terminal C and the radio shop. So it looks like it may be Logan radio techs.
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Re: Logan/MassPort TGs

#6 Post by WS1K » 23 Jan 2019 09:01

TG 31 has been a bit more active but I haven't heard enough traffic to ID it.
Had a few hits of TG 167 which is another new one in the log from 2 nights ago.

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#7 Post by WS1K » 23 Jan 2019 09:58

Chatter on TG 31 referenced "running a sweeper on 29". It sounds like this is Worcester airport.

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#8 Post by jrm3607 » 24 Jan 2019 14:41

WS1K wrote:
23 Jan 2019 09:01
TG 31 has been a bit more active but I haven't heard enough traffic to ID it.
Had a few hits of TG 167 which is another new one in the log from 2 nights ago.
167 is GTU OPS 2

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Re: Logan/MassPort TGs

#9 Post by OceanNora » 13 Jun 2019 01:03

on TG31, I was hearing sealcoating operations for Runways 5 and 23, which are both at Hanscom. I also heard them mention, "the Air Force ramp," which would further make sense for Hanscom. Interestingly, I heard "Station F to Hanscom" on TG31 as well, requesting "Hanscom" check on a group of suspected planespotters at the end of South Road. It would appear that the talkgroup is shared between facilities/operations and Troop F at Hanscom.

on TG51 I've heard Engine 61 calling on the air to Fire Alarm. Engine 61 is assigned to Worcester Airport. I've only heard that so far on the talkgroup so I can't confirmed if it's used by anyone other than Massport Fire at Worcester.

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#10 Post by ecps92 » 13 Jun 2019 08:20

Interesting on TG:51 as info was that channel was to be ENC as "Fire SOPS"

are you hearing these on the Massport Zone or the other zones [700 overlay, Zone 5 etc]
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on TG31, I was hearing sealcoating operations for Runways 5 and 23, which are both at Hanscom. I also heard them mention, "the Air Force ramp," which would further make sense for Hanscom. Interestingly, I heard "Station F to Hanscom" on TG31 as well, requesting "Hanscom" check on a group of suspected planespotters at the end of South Road. It would appear that the talkgroup is shared between facilities/operations and Troop F at Hanscom.

on TG51 I've heard Engine 61 calling on the air to Fire Alarm. Engine 61 is assigned to Worcester Airport. I've only heard that so far on the talkgroup so I can't confirmed if it's used by anyone other than Massport Fire at Worcester.
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Re: Logan/MassPort TGs

#11 Post by jrm3607 » 13 Jun 2019 10:35

OceanNora wrote:
13 Jun 2019 01:03
on TG31, I was hearing sealcoating operations for Runways 5 and 23, which are both at Hanscom. I also heard them mention, "the Air Force ramp," which would further make sense for Hanscom. Interestingly, I heard "Station F to Hanscom" on TG31 as well, requesting "Hanscom" check on a group of suspected planespotters at the end of South Road. It would appear that the talkgroup is shared between facilities/operations and Troop F at Hanscom.

on TG51 I've heard Engine 61 calling on the air to Fire Alarm. Engine 61 is assigned to Worcester Airport. I've only heard that so far on the talkgroup so I can't confirmed if it's used by anyone other than Massport Fire at Worcester.
Talkgroup 51 has been quite active on the Worcester site (https://openmhz.com/system/worcester?fi ... er-code=51) Think it’s safe to say that should be labeled MPA FD ORH or something of the likes.

Does TG 31 sound like a patch to Hanscom’s conventional analog channel? I’d be very surprised if there able to pick up the Massport site out there. I know Massports Hanscom’s Conventional Analog Fire channel is patched to TG 49 on the Massport system, this may be similar situation with TG31.

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Re: Logan/MassPort TGs

#12 Post by OceanNora » 14 Jun 2019 13:37

I'm unfortunately too far away to hear Hanscom's conventional freq, I've had it in the scanner for a few years now without hearing a thing. I haven't heard a ton of traffic on 31, but I'm not sure if it's only active when someone from Logan is speaking (like Troop F or Massport Fire Alarm.)

TG 507 - I'm hearing this active on the Cambridge system as well as Massport and the Boston 700 system. So far all traffic seems to say "Attention all personnel on this frequency," and relates to things like runway closures and openings, along with A380 landings. It appears to be a patch of something, what I cannot tell. I also saw "507 99" as well. 99 on the Massport site/system (I'm still wrapping my head around whether they're just a separate site on CoMIRS or their own system) is Massport Facilities Street Side.

TG 267 on the Massport site/system - It appears to be broadcasting the same random selections of BPD channels that the Boston CItywide 2 has been doing for the past 2 years.

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#13 Post by ecps92 » 14 Jun 2019 14:07

Massport TG: 267 is the Patch to the Boston PD Interop Channel [finally a confirmation of it]
Massport TG: 507 / 8112 is the Massport Wide-Area TG [outside of the Massport Zone] and Not Fire as that is reported as 53 / 848
OceanNora wrote:
14 Jun 2019 13:37
I'm unfortunately too far away to hear Hanscom's conventional freq, I've had it in the scanner for a few years now without hearing a thing. I haven't heard a ton of traffic on 31, but I'm not sure if it's only active when someone from Logan is speaking (like Troop F or Massport Fire Alarm.)

TG 507 - I'm hearing this active on the Cambridge system as well as Massport and the Boston 700 system. So far all traffic seems to say "Attention all personnel on this frequency," and relates to things like runway closures and openings, along with A380 landings. It appears to be a patch of something, what I cannot tell. I also saw "507 99" as well. 99 on the Massport site/system (I'm still wrapping my head around whether they're just a separate site on CoMIRS or their own system) is Massport Facilities Street Side.

TG 267 on the Massport site/system - It appears to be broadcasting the same random selections of BPD channels that the Boston CItywide 2 has been doing for the past 2 years.
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#14 Post by jrm3607 » 14 Jun 2019 16:41

OceanNora wrote:
14 Jun 2019 13:37
I'm unfortunately too far away to hear Hanscom's conventional freq, I've had it in the scanner for a few years now without hearing a thing. I haven't heard a ton of traffic on 31, but I'm not sure if it's only active when someone from Logan is speaking (like Troop F or Massport Fire Alarm.)

TG 507 - I'm hearing this active on the Cambridge system as well as Massport and the Boston 700 system. So far all traffic seems to say "Attention all personnel on this frequency," and relates to things like runway closures and openings, along with A380 landings. It appears to be a patch of something, what I cannot tell. I also saw "507 99" as well. 99 on the Massport site/system (I'm still wrapping my head around whether they're just a separate site on CoMIRS or their own system) is Massport Facilities Street Side.

TG 267 on the Massport site/system - It appears to be broadcasting the same random selections of BPD channels that the Boston CItywide 2 has been doing for the past 2 years.
TG 267 is labeled as "Boston Patch" and rebroadcasts only BPD Channel 2 (Area A), opposed to CW 3 which rebroadcasts channels BPD 2-6.
TG 507 is the Widearea Channel, and as Bill mentioned Fire has there own Widearea TG53

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Re: Logan/MassPort TGs

#15 Post by OceanNora » 14 Jun 2019 17:04

Thanks guys for the confirmations, I figured that's what they were but I had no ability to confirm.

A bit off topic, as I understand it the Worcester Safety & Security guys are now Massport Fire as of this year. Does ORH still have any law enforcement now other than Troop F?

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#16 Post by Pacmannion » 15 Jun 2019 10:07

OceanNora wrote:
14 Jun 2019 17:04
A bit off topic, as I understand it the Worcester Safety & Security guys are now Massport Fire as of this year. Does ORH still have any law enforcement now other than Troop F?
It would just be Troop F, if WAS&S was converted to Massport Fire. I did overtime one day at ORH (I work at BOS), and the way it was explained to me is that WAS&S was primary during the off hours when the TSA checkpoint was closed and no commercial flights were going out and Troop F would be there during the hours the TSA checkpoint was open and flights were going out. I'm sure that's changed/will change now Troop F are the only LEOs.

EDIT: Yep, according to the presentation from the April Massport board meeting, Troop F is now on-site 24/7 since April 8.
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#17 Post by OceanNora » 16 Jun 2019 19:43

That deck had a ton of interesting info, many thanks. I wonder what caused the change.

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#18 Post by Pacmannion » 20 Jun 2019 19:10

OceanNora wrote:
16 Jun 2019 19:43
That deck had a ton of interesting info, many thanks. I wonder what caused the change.
No problem. It's were I get a lot of my info about changes at BOS.

As for the change, I know Massport's Director of Aviation Ed Freni made a proposal back in 2014-15 and the IAFF local that represents Massport Fire, S-2 was also pushing for it, but it was voted down back then. Don't know what spurred it again.
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Re: Logan/MassPort TGs

#19 Post by WS1K » 07 Jul 2019 16:57

TG 185 was just active with talk of an Alert 1 for an aircraft with a gear problem that was going to do a tower fly by. TG 51 also had some related traffic.

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#20 Post by jrm3607 » 09 Jul 2019 16:01

WS1K wrote:
07 Jul 2019 16:57
TG 185 was just active with talk of an Alert 1 for an aircraft with a gear problem that was going to do a tower fly by. TG 51 also had some related traffic.
Those are both Worcester Airport Talkgroups
185 is ORH OPS and 51 is ORH FIRE

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Re: Logan/MassPort TGs

#21 Post by garys » 09 Jul 2019 21:53

Thanks, Wiki page for Worcester Trunk updated.
jrm3607 wrote:
09 Jul 2019 16:01
WS1K wrote:
07 Jul 2019 16:57
TG 185 was just active with talk of an Alert 1 for an aircraft with a gear problem that was going to do a tower fly by. TG 51 also had some related traffic.
Those are both Worcester Airport Talkgroups
185 is ORH OPS and 51 is ORH FIRE
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Re: Logan/MassPort TGs

#22 Post by WS1K » 13 Jul 2019 10:00

jrm3607 wrote:
09 Jul 2019 16:01

Those are both Worcester Airport Talkgroups
185 is ORH OPS and 51 is ORH FIRE
Thank you.
They were both heard on the Logan system.

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