Holyoke PD now P25

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Holyoke PD now P25

#1 Post by unit7 » 27 Jun 2017 22:50

I saw a posting from central190 over on the RR Massachusetts forum yesterday that Holyoke PD is now P25. I had been listening on Sunday and heard them fine with no digital buzz on my PRO2006. I had a chance to listen tonight and programmed my BCD996XT. Yup, they are P25 with a NAC23 on 159.210 (F1 Dispatch). Also caught a hit on 158.955 (F2 Records). I have not heard any analog traffic.
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#3 Post by unit7 » 29 Jun 2017 07:27

158.955 Holyoke PD F2 - Records is NAC86.
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#4 Post by unit7 » 19 Jul 2017 22:15

unit7 wrote:158.955 Holyoke PD F2 - Records is NAC86.
F2 is now pretty much encrypted.

Also, I did hear a brief P25 transmission on 154.8825, which is Holyoke Auxiliary Police. I think it was NAC162 (too quick to confirm).
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#5 Post by cmpsa » 06 Aug 2017 13:24

I have been listening the past 5 days straight (including now) & all P25 digital, no more analog.

Ch1 159.210 Rptr NAC $023 (clear)
Ch2 158.955 Rptr NAC $086 (99.9% quiet due to encrypted, but heard an officer last night calling in who probably didn't know he was Not encrypted when he talked). Only traffic I hear is the non-encrypted individuals.

Their FCC license shows Ch1 transmits from summit of Mt Tom & Soldier's Home, and Ch2 from City Hall/Bell Tower. Ch1 booms into Worc Cnty full scale, and Ch2 receive excellent, but not full signal on scanner signal meter.

Someone here said Holyoke is using Kenwood NX-5200 VHF portables, and I'm guessing Kenwood NX-5700 VHF mobiles. I looked at the specs on Kenwood's website, awesome radios that one radio covers P25, DMR (i.e. MotoTRBO), NexEdge & analog. So they can simply change down or up a channel and be on the opposite digital format to instantly talk to the opposite department. Unsure why one chose P25 & the other chose DMR/MotoTRBO, why not choose the same?

NOTE: The Kenwood NX-5200/5700 series does DES encryption right out of the box, which I'm sure is a huge plus, no extra upgrade cost to have moderate level encryption.

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#6 Post by wb1hbu » 06 Aug 2017 13:47

Hello,

Another nice feature of the mobiles is multiple RF decks can connect to the same control head. One downside is only two out of the three digital modes can be used at one time. Nice radios. I know a couple of hams who bought them.

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#7 Post by ScanBoston » 06 Aug 2017 16:14

My guess would be grants. If you want to be able to get federal grants or be even considered you must be going the P25 route. Fire probably just didn't care...?

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#8 Post by garys » 06 Aug 2017 16:34

Or their grant application was denied for some reason.
ScanBoston wrote:My guess would be grants. If you want to be able to get federal grants or be even considered you must be going the P25 route. Fire probably just didn't care...?
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#9 Post by cdgordon » 06 Aug 2017 20:22

The Federal grant pool is small, not so much available for communications anymore.

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Re: Holyoke PD now P25

#10 Post by cdgordon » 11 Mar 2018 15:15

This morning I logged a hit on 154.8825 DCC 13, TGID 1005. Unit was Holyoke PD Auxiliary doing a radio test in DMR mode. I would guess that they can switch to any mode on any channel.

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#11 Post by garys » 11 Mar 2018 23:02

I don't believe you have to go P25, but the radios must be capable of it. Also, for some grants the radios must be dual band. There hasn't been a big push for the fire service to go to P25 even though the NFPA no longer recommends against it. Even Cambridge with an 800 Mhz P25 trunk system has some analog conventional channels for fire ground use.


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06 Aug 2017 16:14
My guess would be grants. If you want to be able to get federal grants or be even considered you must be going the P25 route. Fire probably just didn't care...?

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