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Providence Fire Channel Numbers/Talkgroups

#1 Post by trp » 18 Apr 2018 09:22

I was monitoring Providence Fire this morning (04-18-2018) on the RISCON Providence Zone and an announcement was made on channel 1 that there would be a radio test of all portable radios on "channel 5" at 08:15. At 08:15 I heard the portable radio test begin (and continue for the next 10 minutes) but it was coming up on my scanner's alpha display as Providence Fire channel 2 (Fireground) and was showing talkgroup #10107. That information had been programmed into my scanner per the information in the SNE Wiki.

I'm curious if the Providence Fire channel assignments and corresponding talkgroup numbers have changed since the SNE Wiki was last updated. The Wiki has Providence Fire channel 5 as being talkgroup #10102. That talkgroup remained silent during the portable radio test even though the dispatcher stated that the radio test was being conducted on "channel 5."
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Re: Providence Fire Channel Numbers/Talkgroups

#2 Post by PFD1993 » 19 Apr 2018 12:25

IIRC, channel 5 refers to the channel thats programmed #5 in the portable, not channel 5 as in PROV FD CH 5. But I will check on this.

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#3 Post by wb1hbu » 27 Mar 2019 15:18

Hello,

Interesting post over on Facebook about Providence FD by Richard G. Blais. Someone commented about hearing MDC-1200 on the Providence fire channels.

"I am a retired Providence fire fighter after 31 years and help design the system as a tech specialist. When they dispatch companies for master boxes or structure fires they assign an analog fireground channel. Companies on arrival turn on vehicle repeaters and the 700 MHZ analog signal is sent back to FA who patches in digital channels 5,6,or 7 and this way the city firehouses and on road apparatus can receive the signal. This system was specially spec and built for providence because digital fireground is to dangerous to operate on due to ambient noise that drowns out voice comes A vibra-lert can cancel out the voice of a member calling mayday. The Motorola digital system sucks and we (fire union) would not except the digital system without the cross patch feature. This feature is now used in other systems around country and we were the first to design it."

I wonder what 700 MHz frequencies they are using for their vehicle repeaters. It appears to be licensed under the state 700 MHz license.

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Re: Providence Fire Channel Numbers/Talkgroups

#4 Post by ecps92 » 27 Mar 2019 18:22

Right in our own Wiki, waiting for an OTA confirmation
wb1hbu wrote:
27 Mar 2019 15:18
Hello,

Interesting post over on Facebook about Providence FD by Richard G. Blais. Someone commented about hearing MDC-1200 on the Providence fire channels.

"I am a retired Providence fire fighter after 31 years and help design the system as a tech specialist. When they dispatch companies for master boxes or structure fires they assign an analog fireground channel. Companies on arrival turn on vehicle repeaters and the 700 MHZ analog signal is sent back to FA who patches in digital channels 5,6,or 7 and this way the city firehouses and on road apparatus can receive the signal. This system was specially spec and built for providence because digital fireground is to dangerous to operate on due to ambient noise that drowns out voice comes A vibra-lert can cancel out the voice of a member calling mayday. The Motorola digital system sucks and we (fire union) would not except the digital system without the cross patch feature. This feature is now used in other systems around country and we were the first to design it."

I wonder what 700 MHz frequencies they are using for their vehicle repeaters. It appears to be licensed under the state 700 MHz license.

73 Eric
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Re: Providence Fire Channel Numbers/Talkgroups

#5 Post by wb1hbu » 27 Mar 2019 20:25

Hello,

I did not see it in the Wiki.

73 Eric

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#6 Post by ecps92 » 28 Mar 2019 06:30

Sorry, thought I posted the URL, it is in the 700 Page
http://www.scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?t ... annel_Plan

No one has actually confirmed OTA, so it was shared in the 700 Regional pages only as these have come from
Public documents, but many never actually heard

wb1hbu wrote:
27 Mar 2019 20:25
Hello,

I did not see it in the Wiki.

73 Eric
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#7 Post by Citywide 173 » 28 Mar 2019 10:13

ecps92 wrote:
27 Mar 2019 18:22
Right in our own Wiki, waiting for an OTA confirmation
Bill,

When they went live, all of the 700 freqs were good and used in the described manner on the fireground. I will try to reconfirm, but I don't think they've changed anything.
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#8 Post by ecps92 » 28 Mar 2019 12:03

True, but no one has actually reported [OTA Confirmed] and submitted to us here.

We [SNE] pride the Wiki on the accuracy of actual [Public Safety] Over-the Air confirmations vs code plugs and inside information

Any thing missing, folks should use the Submission forum, directions are at
viewtopic.php?f=69&t=40807&p=146630

Thanks Ed, updates will be appreciated
Citywide 173 wrote:
28 Mar 2019 10:13
ecps92 wrote:
27 Mar 2019 18:22
Right in our own Wiki, waiting for an OTA confirmation
Bill,

When they went live, all of the 700 freqs were good and used in the described manner on the fireground. I will try to reconfirm, but I don't think they've changed anything.
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Re: Providence Fire Channel Numbers/Talkgroups

#9 Post by jbella » 31 Mar 2019 14:13

wb1hbu wrote:
27 Mar 2019 15:18
Hello,

Interesting post over on Facebook about Providence FD by Richard G. Blais. Someone commented about hearing MDC-1200 on the Providence fire channels.

"I am a retired Providence fire fighter after 31 years and help design the system as a tech specialist. When they dispatch companies for master boxes or structure fires they assign an analog fireground channel. Companies on arrival turn on vehicle repeaters and the 700 MHZ analog signal is sent back to FA who patches in digital channels 5,6,or 7 and this way the city firehouses and on road apparatus can receive the signal. This system was specially spec and built for providence because digital fireground is to dangerous to operate on due to ambient noise that drowns out voice comes A vibra-lert can cancel out the voice of a member calling mayday. The Motorola digital system sucks and we (fire union) would not except the digital system without the cross patch feature. This feature is now used in other systems around country and we were the first to design it."

I wonder what 700 MHz frequencies they are using for their vehicle repeaters. It appears to be licensed under the state 700 MHz license.

73 Eric

That's a VERY interesting solution.

/\/\other /\/\otorola's digital voice has come a long way, and it is certainly improved on the APX, but it's nice to see educated firefighters refuse to accept the status quo and marketing bullshit and actually have a say in the matter.

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#10 Post by W1KNE » 31 Mar 2019 17:09

Citywide 173 wrote:
28 Mar 2019 10:13
ecps92 wrote:
27 Mar 2019 18:22
Right in our own Wiki, waiting for an OTA confirmation
Bill,

When they went live, all of the 700 freqs were good and used in the described manner on the fireground. I will try to reconfirm, but I don't think they've changed anything.
I'll add them to the WIKI, will just keep the confirmation date fields blank until reconfirmation.
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