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#526 Post by ME343 » 26 Jun 2017 09:51

Has anyone else noticed that Zone 2 Simulcast region nets are quiet? Not Getting anything from Eaton Mtn,RN. Which was always busy ow its quiet. Also noticed that Spruce Mtn. RN is quiet.
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#527 Post by jimbois1 » 03 Jul 2017 15:00

ME343 wrote:Has anyone else noticed that Zone 2 Simulcast region nets are quiet? Not Getting anything from Eaton Mtn,RN. Which was always busy ow its quiet. Also noticed that Spruce Mtn. RN is quiet.
I noticed the same for several days in the latter part of June...primarily Spruce Mtn in DPS / SP - Zone 1 and Whitten Hill for DPS / SP - Zone 2, both of which have since returned to normal...suspect transient periodic downtime for maintenance or fixing "bugs"...nothing to get concerned about I guess
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#528 Post by ME343 » 19 Sep 2017 08:58

I was reading back a little bit into this forum about TG 1410. I was running my SDR this morning with dsd+ and had 811 sign in service on the TG with a UID of 1421302 and then another person replied back with a UID of 1421168. Seems both are using. Not Sure where they are working at or anything. Caught me off guard when I first heard it.
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#529 Post by ME343 » 06 Oct 2017 07:58

Eaton Mtn running with a NAC of 1BE
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#530 Post by ecps92 » 06 Oct 2017 08:27

Seems to be, based on a report sent to me off list

Theme is all MSCommNet NAC's end with E

The list I was sent was extensive
Some licenses pending from early summer
Some found were input Freqs
and a lesson being learned or shared, is don't take a couple of hits as gospel, software and the radios have a latency issue
where the NAC is carried over from a previous hit sometimes, as well as the WEAK reception causing odd NAC's to appear.

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ME343 wrote:Eaton Mtn running with a NAC of 1BE
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#531 Post by ecps92 » 06 Oct 2017 08:37

$55E is either Huntoon or Whitten for 155.5500 anyone near-by to confirm/validate which site
ME343 wrote:Eaton Mtn running with a NAC of 1BE
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#532 Post by ecps92 » 06 Oct 2017 10:28

Pending Licenses since June, but likely already operational
152.8475 as found was $53E
and
158.1075 as found was $21E
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#533 Post by ChrisP » 11 Oct 2017 09:48

On Zone 1A, heard a Warden unit ask to have another Warden contact him on "Warden Service TAC All". Waited to hear one of the 15XX talkgroups light up, but never did, so I assume they must have been on tower site(s) out of my range. Assuming it's probably TG 1523, but I can't say for sure.

No confirmation on which talkgroup it is, but at least confirmation on an actual channel name.
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#534 Post by ME343 » 23 Nov 2017 17:34

Big Moose Mtn 160.140 80E NAC Reconfirmed 11/23/17. with a side note. I don't know if it has to be my location or something but I get both Zone 2 and Zone 3 traffic on it
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#535 Post by ajaphoto » 25 Nov 2017 10:44

Game Wardens are running some sort of checkpoint. A lot of traffic on Zone 1 - TG 101
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#536 Post by CEFD_Thomas » 26 Nov 2017 09:49

Just out of curiosity could I passively monitor the trunked system with my xts2500? It’s not flashed for trunking, only p25 conventional so this is purely hypothetical.


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#537 Post by nhfirefighter » 26 Nov 2017 10:54

CEFD_Thomas wrote:Just out of curiosity could I passively monitor the trunked system with my xts2500? It’s not flashed for trunking, only p25 conventional so this is purely hypothetical.


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Not easily. The system is built on a Harris platform. As such the network controllers handle trunking differently than Motorola. To get a Motorola radio to follow a Harris system you would need to enable a feature that requires an advanced system key which would need to be granted by an administrator of the MSCOMMNET system.

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#538 Post by CEFD_Thomas » 26 Nov 2017 12:35

nhfirefighter wrote:Not easily. The system is built on a Harris platform. As such the network controllers handle trunking differently than Motorola. To get a Motorola radio to follow a Harris system you would need to enable a feature that requires an advanced system key which would need to be granted by an administrator of the MSCOMMNET system.
I figured as much but it crossed my mind so I thought I’d ask. Thanks for your reply.


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#539 Post by ME343 » 30 Nov 2017 07:13

Zone 2 troopers were handling a incident in Jackman last night and 2 of them switched to TG 723 which is Troop C talk and I guess either they forgot to switch it to encryption or something because everything they said was in the clear. 0 encryption.
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#540 Post by schwab » 11 Jan 2018 12:16

Zone 1A is patched to Agamenticus RN today, 155.4525.
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#541 Post by schwab » 11 Jan 2018 22:47

Probably related: techs were active on TG 9980 on the Ossipee site, and Zone 1A was on TG 35149 instead of 711.
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#542 Post by ME343 » 16 Jan 2018 14:09

TG 1811: Department of Corrections Admin Channel.
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Re: MSCommNet Thread II

#543 Post by ME343 » 28 Feb 2018 06:56

Possible new voice channel for Eaton Mtn: 159.2625. Uses the same 1BE NAC as the other channels assigned but very limited voice traffic.. will have to continue to listen to it to confirm exact usage.

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#544 Post by K1IWN » 13 Jun 2018 11:54

This may not be pertinent to the discussion, but I didn't know where else to put it.

I overheard on Zone 1 at roughly 1000 hours that Gray RCC is now closed and all radio traffic will be from Augusta RCC.

It sounds permanent the way the dispatcher was talking.

Does anyone know anything?

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#545 Post by ecps92 » 13 Jun 2018 16:23

http://www.maine.gov/dps/bec/gray.htm

The Gray Regional Communication Center is due to close mid-summer of 2018 with all operations to be transferred to the Augusta Regional Communications Center. The Augusta RCC is hiring
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13 Jun 2018 11:54
This may not be pertinent to the discussion, but I didn't know where else to put it.

I overheard on Zone 1 at roughly 1000 hours that Gray RCC is now closed and all radio traffic will be from Augusta RCC.

It sounds permanent the way the dispatcher was talking.

Does anyone know anything?

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#546 Post by MaineRadioMan » 27 Aug 2018 12:08

why so much traffic on 155.445 Nac 80E on Mt Blue?? I thought they wanted trunking capabilities and they spend lots of time on Conventional!

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#547 Post by ChrisP » 29 Aug 2018 12:56

99% of that traffic on Mt Blue is Zone 2A. The solar powered sites (Mt Blue included) are basically a hybrid of a conventional and trunked system - it's single frequency, but the talkgroup is sent as part of the digital data when voice is transmitted. If you happen to have a scanner that can read talkgroup data on conventional channels (such as the TRX-1 or TRX-2, and there are others), you'll see that it's mostly TG 721 (Zone 2A), and occasionally TG 711 (Zone 1A).

Because a normal trunked site needs to transmit the control channel data continuously, it uses quite a bit of power, and (apparently) the solar sites can't deliver it constantly. Plus, they seem to be in more remote areas, which need coverage, but there probably isn't a lot of users trying to access the site all at once. So it's not that they prefer to operate in conventional mode, it's simply a matter of the users accessing the TG they need in an area that doesn't have coverage from a regular trunked site. To the users, it's (probably) relatively seamless.

With a normal trunked site, I believe users normally don't have to manually select which site they're using, say, when they're travelling through an area - the radio does that for them. As for the solar conventional sites, I don't know if this is still the case, or if they DO have to manually select them. I also believe that the solar site will change the TG based on what the user is selecting on their radio (as for Mt Blue, whichever users associate with this site most frequently seem to stay on mostly Zone 2A). Someone who knows more about this than I can maybe chime in (and if I misrepresented anything else).

Again, I welcome anyone to correct or clarify anything here that maybe I got wrong.

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by MaineRadioMan » 27 Aug 2018 11:08

why so much traffic on 155.445 Nac 80E on Mt Blue?? I thought they wanted trunking capabilities and they spend lots of time on Conventional

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#548 Post by MaineRadioMan » 30 Aug 2018 18:27

Thanks Chris! So basically i'm hearing it all go thru there and not on the trunk site cause its hitting that freq in the scanner first and not the trunk freq?

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Re: MSCommNet Thread II

#549 Post by ChrisP » 05 Sep 2018 21:32

Yup, that's right

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Re: MSCommNet Thread II

#550 Post by MaineRadioMan » 06 Sep 2018 19:52

ChrisP wrote:
05 Sep 2018 21:32
Yup, that's right
ty sir :beer:

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