MSP Use of Low Band VHF?

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MSP Use of Low Band VHF?

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Are all the new patrol vehicles still getting low band VHF installed in their vehicles?
Also many years ago the various troop headquarters barracks use to test on low band with state police headquarters --- I think once a day. Is that sill being done?.
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Mostly heard , out East is troopers on details chit-chatting

I've still seen vehicles with Low Band Antennas and some without

I have not heard a Barracks or Troop HQ on low-band in years, if still in the consoles ? good question
maybe a few of the SP folks who lurk will PM and share for us to share
NIGHTHAWK01 wrote:
06 May 2020 15:11
Are all the new patrol vehicles still getting low band VHF installed in their vehicles?
Also many years ago the various troop headquarters barracks use to test on low band with state police headquarters --- I think once a day. Is that sill being done?.
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I hear regular calls on 42.50 frequently, usually from Bourne and Yarmouth. Also, chit chat on 42.42

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I hear car-car transmissions every now and then, can't remember exactly which, but 42.42 I think is one.

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ecps92 wrote:
06 May 2020 15:30
Mostly heard , out East is troopers on details chit-chatting
I hear more chit-chat "not want to be heard on the main radio system" chatter. Not covert or sensitive stuff, just rag chew type stuff. Low Band is definitely not dead.
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Sent to me "off LIST" - someone who I owe a beer or three

For the Troop HQ and GHQ usage
Varies by who is at the console, some key all transmitters [Low Band and Talk Groups] others only Talkgroups [700/800]

At times it can/will be used by a cruiser who is experiencing issues reaching an 800 tower site.

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07 May 2020 06:10
I hear more chit-chat "not want to be heard on the main radio system" chatter. Not covert or sensitive stuff, just rag chew type stuff. Low Band is definitely not dead.
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I saw a 2020 Interceptor the other day and it had a low band whip. They really stick out as they don't have push bars and the new shape of the explorer. Also a hybrid sticker over the rear tire. But they do still have low band. Towards the city, I occasionally hear H-5 talking to cruisers on 42.34 when the talkgroups are busy. Also, small town patrol on 44.74 when I stray west is quite active. Some C-PTL use and some car to car on the pike. I always keep an ear on them in the 6m radio whenever i'm in the car.

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John, interesting you say "Small Town" patrol as Mike and I were discussing that label the other day.
Is it still used ? Last user I knew on it, was GATSF and that was when I was there and we never heard anyone but us
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07 May 2020 14:34
I saw a 2020 Interceptor the other day and it had a low band whip. They really stick out as they don't have push bars and the new shape of the explorer. Also a hybrid sticker over the rear tire. But they do still have low band. Towards the city, I occasionally hear H-5 talking to cruisers on 42.34 when the talkgroups are busy. Also, small town patrol on 44.74 when I stray west is quite active. Some C-PTL use and some car to car on the pike. I always keep an ear on them in the 6m radio whenever i'm in the car.
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Holland and Wales PD still are on 44.740 (PL 141.3) and are dispatched out of New Braintree (C8). I don't hear any other towns on that freq.

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MSP low band is not recorded and the 800 is. So the troopers like that for chat. Mostly units use this car-car. Sometimes I hear Troop D barracks talk to units. It’s a good redundancy to have the low band around.

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Bill, Next time you head to the Chicopee Flea have 44.74 in the radio and you will see.

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One of the reasons Mike and I were talking about the "Small Town" Patrols is no confirmations have ever been submitted
https://scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?titl ... e_Low-Band
https://scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?titl ... atch_Towns

ScanBoston wrote:
07 May 2020 21:43
Bill, Next time you head to the Chicopee Flea have 44.74 in the radio and you will see.
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I can confirm Holland and Wales PD as I listen to them every day. :)

I have also heard MSP cruisers coordinate with these towns on 44.740 occasionally if they were responding as backup to a call. I'm curious as to who else has been heard here if you don't mind sharing.

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ecps92 wrote:
08 May 2020 07:15
One of the reasons Mike and I were talking about the "Small Town" Patrols is no confirmations have ever been submitted
https://scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?titl ... e_Low-Band
https://scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?titl ... atch_Towns
There is a confirmation here
https://scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?titl ... epartments
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Very rare but I have even heard super secret comms on 44.90 141.3

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Just a friendly reminder folks, we rely on YOU to help us keep track of usage.

Take a minute to keep SNE accurate and make a submission of information that has not been confirmed in the past year :cool:

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In reguards to the MSP Low band system. They use most of the old 42 & 44Mhz frequencies as backup and secondary communications to the 700 & 800 systems. The 42.44 "statewide channel" I have not heard communications on since the state police went to the trunked radio system back in the 1990's. The troop H and troop A troopers use 42.34 for car to car and barracks to car communications (as a backup or in the fringe areas where the 800 doesn't work). Troop D uses the 42.5 and Troop B I have heard on 42.46, when I have traveled out that neck of the woods.
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You are right the only Low band State channel i have never heard used since the take over of the MDC 800 system is 42.44. Must be against the law..

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I can only remember hearing traffic on that channel a couple of times. And it was one of the barracks calling another barracks to say answer the phone. I never actually heard it used for statewide anything, or emergencies, like it was listed for. It brings me back to listening on the good ol regency 8 channel..and bearcat 101.
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And it is confirmed, NOT all cruisers do contain Low Band.

Today, caught two units on 800
One told the other go to Low Band 5
Caught part of the traffic on 5 of one calling the other
but then a few minutes later the response was "this cruiser is not equipt with low band"
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I think it's more likely that unmarked units don't have low band. The 800 antennas generally look like cell phone antennas or something not police related. A low band whip or even base loaded coil antenna just screams police.
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This was two Road Troopers on x-PTL-1 not two guys working a detail
garys wrote:
20 May 2020 15:05
I think it's more likely that unmarked units don't have low band. The 800 antennas generally look like cell phone antennas or something not police related. A low band whip or even base loaded coil antenna just screams police.
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