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NHSP troops d and b

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I just looked at tge fcc database and it looks like under callsign WPGN218. 156.21 and 154.935 are both listed under tge same license. Both frequencies are listed under repeater on pats peak and Bedford. I’m not sure if this is due to troops d and b merging, but definitely interesting. I can regularly get156.21 but haven’t been reaching 154.935 in Bedford.
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I hear 154.935 $826 all over the state and adjacent states. Check some settings
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I wonder if they are broadcasting on both channels 156.21 and 154.935. I have 826 programmed in as the pl tone for both. I am closest to pats peak too.
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Looking at tge new license it might require a change in the frequencies listed for troops b and d. B 154.935, 156.21 and d 156.21, 154.935. This is under the new license with callsign WPGN218. If anyone can take a look at this and offer suggestions it woukd greatly be appreciated.
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It looks like they're just adding a new TX site. Some of the Troop A and Troop E licenses have (or had) both frequencies on them.
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Woukd that mean that I woukd be able to hear troop b on 156.21 frequency too?
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Would they transmit from Bedford and henniker? How does that work?
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They are simulcast, they transmit on multiple sites at once
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I just have to wonder how soon they will make this change?
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When might this change happen where they will simulcast from pats peak in henniker as well as Bedford location?
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Unless there is an insider who wants to share his/her knowledge, the actual answer is, "When we hear the frequencies in use."

cboykonh wrote: 11 Jan 2022 13:00 When might this change happen where they will simulcast from pats peak in henniker as well as Bedford location?
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I listen to Troop B all the way down in the Framingham MA area. I have also noticed quite a bit of encryption lately.
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I live in Weare nh and am wondering if NHSP woukd dispatch out of concord being that Weare is close to concord? I know that Weare is technically in troop b but we are closer to troop d repeater than we are to troop bs repeater especially in north Weare which borders to henniker in troop d.
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cboykonh wrote: 09 Jun 2022 14:25 I live in Weare nh and am wondering if NHSP woukd dispatch out of concord being that Weare is close to concord? I know that Weare is technically in troop b but we are closer to troop d repeater than we are to troop bs repeater especially in north Weare which borders to henniker in troop d.
Where they dispatch from is arbitrary in this day and age.
SP and a lot of others are on core connected consoles, so they could be basically anywhere in the state.
If you watch console IDs, you'll see them change on occasions such as weekends or holidays, indicating a different location.
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So I guess I could hear an NHSP get dispatched to Weare on 156.21 which is closer to Weare than 154.935? It’s not strictly to troop b’s frequency of 154.935? I did hear them get dispatched to Weare on 156.21 as weLl as deeming and hillsborough on 156.21 which in the past was on 154.935.
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Deering and hillsborough
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Kelton was referencing where the Dispatch console was not Repeater sites.

D Troop would be dispatched on D-Troop channels
B Troop would be dispatched on B-Troop channels

Depending on the volume of traffic and staffing for that day/shift, you could have the same dispatcher working both B/D and they decided to key up both sets of repeaters vs having to select/unselect all shift long

in todays day of technology the Dispatch Console could be in Providence Rhode Island, if need-be

cboykonh wrote: 10 Jun 2022 16:13 So I guess I could hear an NHSP get dispatched to Weare on 156.21 which is closer to Weare than 154.935? It’s not strictly to troop b’s frequency of 154.935? I did hear them get dispatched to Weare on 156.21 as weLl as deeming and hillsborough on 156.21 which in the past was on 154.935.
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cboykonh wrote: 09 Jan 2022 16:42 I just looked at tge fcc database and it looks like under callsign WPGN218. 156.21 and 154.935 are both listed under tge same license. Both frequencies are listed under repeater on pats peak and Bedford. I’m not sure if this is due to troops d and b merging, but definitely interesting. I can regularly get156.21 but haven’t been reaching 154.935 in Bedford.
While I have no insider information, I would read very little into them sharing a license. The license is assigned to a state agency, not specifically one of the troops.

I'm guessing the Pat's Peak buildout is newish, and they decided to put it all under one license, rather than update licenses for several troops at the same time. 156.21 as a repeater (FB2) is only licensed on Pat's Peak on this license; the other one is for mobile usage.

I'm pretty sure Troop B is already simulcasting from Pack Monadnock and Warner Hill, and as others note, it tends to have pretty terrific range. Depending on how your receiver handles encrypted signals, you might be receiving the signal fine but it's staying muted due to their sporadic but not uncommon use of encryption.

The Bedford site lists a Height Above Average Terrain (HAAT) of something like negative 20 meters. I have no idea if it's for simulcast fill-in, or they just licensed it as a potential repeater site just because they could toss a backup repeater there, but unless you live close by I wouldn't expect that site to help anything.

As others said, I don't think this implies any operational or organizational changes. I think they're just adding some repeaters on Pat's Peak.
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