MSCommNet Thread II

Scanning information and discussion for the state of Maine.
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Post by CEFD_Thomas »

Much chatter and use of patches this afternoon by the forest service. Nothing out of the ordinary until around 2020 hours when the conversation changed from normal patch TG's to TG 1 on big moose. We don't have TG 1 listed so is it a patch TG, something to do with the 1 freq sites, or something else?


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The Zone 1A patches on the Agamenticus Region Net and 460/465.125 has ceased as of this week. I did hear a Trooper in Lebanon on the Aggie RN this afternoon talking with SP Gray. I think they are using the Aggie RN to attempt to fill coverage issues in Lebanon.
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A lot of activity on 1811 in zone 3. Not sure whats happening. i have it marked as DOC-Unknown
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ME343 wrote:A lot of activity on 1811 in zone 3. Not sure whats happening. i have it marked as DOC-Unknown
I've been trying to figure that out as well. Sounded like a transport of some sort to PCJ maybe. Also sounded like bangor pd was involved.


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CEFD_Thomas wrote:I've been trying to figure that out as well. Sounded like a transport of some sort to PCJ maybe. Also sounded like bangor pd was involved.


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Maybe Probation looking for someone? I've heard ohio st, clinton st, and also talk about pinging a phone
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ME343 wrote:Maybe Probation looking for someone? I've heard ohio st, clinton st, and also talk about pinging a phone
As soon as I made my previous post I heard that too. If not probation than executing warrants maybe.


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it wasn't probation. it was DOC looking for someone. http://bangordailynews.com/2016/10/25/n ... ef=polbeat
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TG 1628. Unknown Use. Unsure if its been reported before. Was getting it from a Zone 3 Tower
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I just heard zone 4A on passadumkeag mtn and I've never hear any zone 4 traffic on a zone 3 tower before so I presume this is a new addition?


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Hearing traffic on TG 1627. Looking at the database I would say it's a dmr tac channel but the traffic wasn't very identifying.


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Just got back from a trip to Maine.

What have been peoples experiences monitoring MSCommNet while mobile? I did not have great results myself. I had alot of voice drop outs (DAT/LNK appearing) on the trunked sites and many times I would just hear one side of the conversation and most times, I'd miss things entirely. I was running an online feed simultaneously on my phone to confirm this. I started out my trip with every site in the system programmed into my BCD996XT. Spent the night in the Portland area and was headed up to the Sugarloaf area so I decided to lock out all but 5 trunked sites Keeping Agamenticus, Ossipee, Gray, Granite and Sugarloaf. Figured I might have too much going on and the scanner was having a hard time deciding which Site to lock on to. I know its not a simulcast system but can multiple sites carrying the same *talkgroup* being received create similar problems? I added 20db attenuation to all but the Sugarloaf Site and that combined with locking out a bunch of sites improved things slightly but I never had anything id remotely describe as consistently good. Nothing like what I was able to get out of the old system while mobile.

The conventional MSCommNet sites boomed in great, I was listening to Mt Blue and Kennebago as I drove Rt 16 into Northern NH. I did NOT hear the analog rebroadcast of SP Zone 2 off Sugarloaf on 172.575 at least not from my hotel in Rangely. I took my cheap Baofung on a hike near Sugarloaf parked on the freq and heard nothing only to later realize I had a recieve PL programmed in there from something else. I realized later that night in Rangeley so I threw it in the scanner for the night but heard nothing. I would assume something booming off something as high as Sugarloaf would be heard fine 15 or so line of sight miles away in Rangeley. Can anyone else confirm status? Are these SP regionnets supposed to always carry the dispatcher and all traffic or only at certain times?

Any suggestions for better monitoring this system while mobile? Ive heard some suggestions of playing w channel delay for the voice drop outs and FM/NFM settings. I'm running a Larsen 150/450/800 on a magnetic mount. Is the scanner just getting overloaded with too much signal from too many sites even with just the 5 mentioned? Things seemed to get a *little* better up towards the Sugarloaf area when, presumably, I was really only receiving 1 site. I know very different systems but I have pretty much every site in the Mass SP Analog system programmed in my scanner and can go statewide without ever missing a beat. Does Maine run much higher power causing the scanner to get "confused"? Any suggestions/experiences would be great! I know the system is ultimately not optimized for scanner listening and commercial equip is obviously gonna work just fine so not knocking the system just looking for what I can improve on at my end to get better results.

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Finally getting back into monitoring the system after a long hiatus

Anyone monitoring the system with unitrunker on a regular basis? would love to see you .xml export file! robinson.nick@gmail.com

Several new talkgroups ive never seen before active now in Zone 4

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Curious if anyone is hearing any Maine Forest Service traffic in southern Maine? I hear the rangers on Zone 1 but never hear any traffic on the forest service talkgroups. The old 159.xxx repeaters before MSCOMMNET used to be real busy but it doesn't seem to be the case now unless I am using the wrong TGIDs.

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nhfirefighter wrote:Curious if anyone is hearing any Maine Forest Service traffic in southern Maine? I hear the rangers on Zone 1 but never hear any traffic on the forest service talkgroups. The old 159.xxx repeaters before MSCOMMNET used to be real busy but it doesn't seem to be the case now unless I am using the wrong TGIDs.
In the zone 3 area central region ops 1 is used quite frequently and bangor has the ability to talk on it. Rangers in southern maine should be using southern region ops 1 if they aren't talking on zone 1a but they may just not be talking much.


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It will be curious to see what is used when CAP does some of the Forest Fire Patrols.
nhfirefighter wrote:Curious if anyone is hearing any Maine Forest Service traffic in southern Maine? I hear the rangers on Zone 1 but never hear any traffic on the forest service talkgroups. The old 159.xxx repeaters before MSCOMMNET used to be real busy but it doesn't seem to be the case now unless I am using the wrong TGIDs.
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Just heard some traffic on TG 1301 about getting tires changed and a battery replaced. The conversation was between 1720 and 1721. Would that be the correct unit numbers for conservation?
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CEFD_Thomas wrote:Just heard some traffic on TG 1301 about getting tires changed and a battery replaced. The conversation was between 1720 and 1721. Would that be the correct unit numbers for conservation?
1301 is Conservation North

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MFR334 wrote:1301 is Conservation North
Yes I'm aware, what I was asking is are conservation units 1700 series?


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http://scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?title ... _CALLSIGNS
CEFD_Thomas wrote:Yes I'm aware, what I was asking is are conservation units 1700 series?


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Thank you


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Post by KA1TIV »

I am picking up a previously unknown talkgroup, 1410 and a new group of users, unit numbers in the 800 - 814 range so far. IDs are in the 142 range so it is probable that it is either Parks and Lands or some type of Forest Ranger activity.

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Mark...SP 800 series unit numbers are assigned primarily to Maine SP Troop K - Commercial Vehicle Enforcement. SP/ DPS Gray RCC has primary responsibility for handling Troop K (800 units) radio traffic, even though they can be anywhere in the state = hence patching talkgroups when necessary on MSCommNet to achieve statewide coverage to these 800 series units.
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As an amplification, Unit numbers are definitely not State Police units. They are checking in with something called "Augusta Lab" (no user ID yet). The users are statewide with units checking in so far from Fryburg, Ashland, Orono, Augusta and (I think) Caswell. There are also users besides the "800s" such as 1010, and a group in the 80s (80 to 84 so far). There are new users almost daily. Some or most of the users are new to using radios. I have never heard a SP 800 unit on anything other than a SP talkgroup, but the Houlton RCC regularly checks in on the EMA Radio Checks (Mon, Wed, Fri at 8:00 AM). Maine CDC also checks in with the EMA Radio Checks.

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KA1TIV wrote:As an amplification, Unit numbers are definitely not State Police units. They are checking in with something called "Augusta Lab" (no user ID yet). The users are statewide with units checking in so far from Fryburg, Ashland, Orono, Augusta and (I think) Caswell. There are also users besides the "800s" such as 1010, and a group in the 80s (80 to 84 so far). There are new users almost daily. Some or most of the users are new to using radios. I have never heard a SP 800 unit on anything other than a SP talkgroup, but the Houlton RCC regularly checks in on the EMA Radio Checks (Mon, Wed, Fri at 8:00 AM). Maine CDC also checks in with the EMA Radio Checks.

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Hhmmm...don't know what to make of that....bears further monitoring for to glean more clarity on who and what your hearing
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Post by ChrisP »

Going back to the wiki, it looks like back in 2015 someone identified TG 1410 as the Maine Forest Service, Forest Health Division.

http://www.maine.gov/dacf/mfs/forest_health/index.htm

If you click on "Contact Us", it gives you the number and address to the "MFS Insect and Disease Lab" in Augusta, which could explain the "Augusta Lab". As for the 800 callsigns, well, I can't explain that...
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