Favorite SHTF frequencies in NE

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I'm working on my programming for my new BCD996P2 and I plan to have a system for SHTF type frequencies that I can turn on during any disasters or kerfluffles that may be happening. So not the kind of stuff you'd expect to hear all the time, except maybe for training and/or radio checks.

I have the federal FEMA frequencies already as well as the NIFC. I have a separate list for federal and milcom but anything that's particularly useful for moderate to major SHTF stuff I'd like to program into this system as well.

I know there's got to be more than what I've found so far but I'm not sure where to look. I'm in Northern Grafton county between the VT border and the White Mtns. Clear shots of Mt. Wash and Cannon Mtn.

So I'm just looking for some ideas to build out this list. Let's hear em!
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other than putting in EVERYTHING listed in the NIFOG
https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/file ... 0FINAL.pdf
rely on the Wiki

Most of the day-to-day mutual aid channels will be used.
NH has always had a very robust Fire/EMS Mutual Aid system and has used it (my monitoring) of Lakes Region, Capitol, Hanover, Twin State on atleast an annual basis

What is used may depend on the incident, to include No Radios (which means we as monitors would be SoL on that one)

Down here in Boston we have major events that occur at varying time periods are as always asked for the what if's etc
and the response is "the normal day-to-day Mutual Aid channels, usually there has been nothing super surprising during the
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Skyd wrote: 09 Mar 2023 12:43 I'm working on my programming for my new BCD996P2 and I plan to have a system for SHTF type frequencies that I can turn on during any disasters or kerfluffles that may be happening. So not the kind of stuff you'd expect to hear all the time, except maybe for training and/or radio checks.

I have the federal FEMA frequencies already as well as the NIFC. I have a separate list for federal and milcom but anything that's particularly useful for moderate to major SHTF stuff I'd like to program into this system as well.

I know there's got to be more than what I've found so far but I'm not sure where to look. I'm in Northern Grafton county between the VT border and the White Mtns. Clear shots of Mt. Wash and Cannon Mtn.

So I'm just looking for some ideas to build out this list. Let's hear em!
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The last I knew, and Bill can probably confirm, every FEMA frequency was encrypted.

Also, FEMA will not be on the ground for a minimum of 48 hours and can take up to 96 hours to get to a scene. That's once the President authorizes a state of emergency.

MEMA will likely be faster, but what they can provide is limited.

For the first 24 hours, it will be the local and state public safety agencies doing the heavy lifting.
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I knew the FEMA frequencies had encryption capabilities but RR I think lists them as part time encryption. I know first responders are going to be all my local PD's Mutual aid, etc etc.

This was more for the "extra" stuff that may be of interest. I know preppers have some favorites they monitor and use for comms.

Sounds like I might have most of what I would want already. If the FEMA ones are indeed full time encryption I'll delete them out and save the memory and scan times.
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unless you run out of room, Load em' all. It's not like anyone buys crystals anymore

You never know and Only you can validate ENC or Not from your listening post.

Altho that 4 letter agency and the others that they handle radios for , are GENERALLY strapped for ENC, a few have been SEEN/HEARD in the Clear from time-time
Skyd wrote: 10 Mar 2023 11:28 I knew the FEMA frequencies had encryption capabilities but RR I think lists them as part time encryption. I know first responders are going to be all my local PD's Mutual aid, etc etc.

This was more for the "extra" stuff that may be of interest. I know preppers have some favorites they monitor and use for comms.

Sounds like I might have most of what I would want already. If the FEMA ones are indeed full time encryption I'll delete them out and save the memory and scan times.
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ecps92 wrote: 10 Mar 2023 11:57 unless you run out of room, Load em' all. It's not like anyone buys crystals anymore
For sure, I just have to organize them into small enough chunks that I can turn off and on so as not to have incredible long scan cycles. I really try to keep it under 2 seconds for everything I have enabled at any given time.

But this is also why I plan to add more scanners to my listening post. So I can spread out my scans and potentially hear more. For me alot of the fun is finding new stuff, verifying frequencies/tones/nacs, etc etc. But I also like to listen to what the goings ons are.

Side note - My very first scanner was a regency with like 5 channels that used crystals. Was essentially a metal box with lights on it. lol
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SHTF? Really? :rolleyes:
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W1KNE wrote: 10 Mar 2023 18:08 SHTF? Really? :rolleyes:
For some people this entire hobby is a giant eye roll, and it's open to interpretation what you consider to be "shtf". It's become a probably overused acronym and preppers often take it to the extreme and reference Doomsday scenarios. However it could just as easily be used to refer to a freak natural disaster, explosion at a propane facility, Stampede of angry Karens looking for the nearest manager, etc etc.

To be honest the state of the world is probably the worst it's ever been in during my lifetime, so in some ways the dookie is and has been hitting the air current production machine with some regularity across the globe.

When someone uses the aforementioned acronym, they may often be stereotyped as a prepper, a nut job, a whackadoodle, or simply paranoid. Or you know, they might just be a normal dude that has interest in communications and uses the term as an open interpretation for - above average crap is going down and there's more agencies/people/boots on the ground, than usual. Or even an evacuation, look at what happened in Ohio recently for example. The nasty chemical "S" hit the "F" there.

Anyway - Not trying to be snarky and I don't usually give things like this a passing thought. But IDK, I guess I'm bored and because I am a bit of a and information glutton and RF enthusiast it rubbed me the wrong way.

Feel free to lock this thread at this point - no hard feelings. I know now to qualify any questions or comments I may have and consider if I may inadvertently be mistaken for "some people".

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Don’t discount the significance of business band traffic during disasters. You can gauge how widespread a power outage, water main break, or natural disaster is. Know your local businesses’ frequencies and tones ahead of time.

Sounds silly but you’d be surprised at what you’ll hear as soon as things deviate from normal. At least a couple people are bound to panic on the radio.
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Skyd wrote: 10 Mar 2023 22:31
Feel free to lock this thread at this point - no hard feelings. I know now to qualify any questions or comments I may have and consider if I may inadvertently be mistaken for "some people".
I could also just be busting your chops. I have no issues, what so ever. Just me being a wise guy, so don't take it any more than that! MGreen
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I'll second what Mike says having known him for years. This website is not as rigid as other places. A lot of comments are made tongue in cheek, and I'm guilty of a fair percentage of them. This is a very interesting thread that should continue.

Besides, it gives me time to come up with a few other alternatives to sh*t hits the fan....quiet, I'm thinkin' ovah heah!
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or the old days of listening to NYNEX. Gas and the Power Co's to determine how wide spread
So many have move to other Non monitorable RF spectrums
VermontCUCV wrote: 11 Mar 2023 00:45 Don’t discount the significance of business band traffic during disasters. You can gauge how widespread a power outage, water main break, or natural disaster is. Know your local businesses’ frequencies and tones ahead of time.

Sounds silly but you’d be surprised at what you’ll hear as soon as things deviate from normal. At least a couple people are bound to panic on the radio.
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Special Help Information Traffic

BTW for the OP, slightly off-topic but board related, since you do like to SEARCH out stuff, browse thru the NH/VT Wiki's
So much in your region is only regularly updated by us tourists to the region and needs some recent confirmations :)

W1KNE wrote: 11 Mar 2023 04:33 I could also just be busting your chops. I have no issues, what so ever. Just me being a wise guy, so don't take it any more than that! MGreen
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VermontCUCV wrote: 11 Mar 2023 00:45 Don’t discount the significance of business band traffic during disasters. You can gauge how widespread a power outage, water main break, or natural disaster is. Know your local businesses’ frequencies and tones ahead of time.

Sounds silly but you’d be surprised at what you’ll hear as soon as things deviate from normal. At least a couple people are bound to panic on the radio.
No that actually makes a ton of sense, I have some business stuff programmed I'll have to add more to my list.
Scott wrote: 11 Mar 2023 07:30 I'll second what Mike says having known him for years. This website is not as rigid as other places. A lot of comments are made tongue in cheek, and I'm guilty of a fair percentage of them. This is a very interesting thread that should continue.

Besides, it gives me time to come up with a few other alternatives to sh*t hits the fan....quiet, I'm thinkin' ovah heah!
Ya, so I realize I haven't been around here enough to catch the dynamic quite yet. And I've had some bad forum experiences, I've had some good ones too but ya - I've even run into a sad ham or two online. Never in real life, only online. Glad to see things are a little more light hearted here, I'll adjust my meter accordingly MGreen
ecps92 wrote: 11 Mar 2023 07:43 Special Help Information Traffic

BTW for the OP, slightly off-topic but board related, since you do like to SEARCH out stuff, browse thru the NH/VT Wiki's
So much in your region is only regularly updated by us tourists to the region and needs some recent confirmations :)
I did notice that when looking through stuff. I'd love to contribute and I've sorta been tracking for myself, what channels are active and/or match the descriptions I've found online....etc.

I'll have to take a look at the confirmations area to see what I need to submit and then I'll make myself a little spreadsheet or something to keep track.
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